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Ergun Caner Continues to Work on his “Exoneration”

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by Jason Smathers on June 13, 2013

The pretend jihadist, Ergun Caner, was exonerated of all allegations of lying about his background? So he claims. A recent whirlwind of online activity from Caner is all pointing to one message: EXONERATED. Caner seems to be claiming he did nothing wrong. No need to repent, how can you repent when you’ve done nothing wrong?
A few examples of Caner’s claims to have been exonerated from twitter:

  • “Never Accept the Accusations of the Ignorant. Never Apologize if innocent & never Allow the Devil to steal Ur Joy!” #ExoneratedSeries
  • “No need to prove anything. Certainly not u. Again, 3 schools looked at it all. Finding? Exonerated”
  • “I think the word you’re looking for is EXONERATED. Cleared by three schools since attacked by the Calvinlluminati.”

This so called exoneration seems to come from deleting all evidence of lies from the Internet. Bloggers have been reporting that Caner has been asserting copyright claims on any video where he lied about his past having them removed via the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). On June 3rd, Caner’s attorney sent such a notice to Viddler concerning one video Witnesses Unto Me posted. However, this video is a US Government work, not subject to copyright. This didn’t stop Caner’s attorney from stating “… under penalty of perjury, I am the owner, or an agent authorized to act on behalf of the owner…” Although, Caner is clearly not the owner. The letters from Caner’s attorney attesting to lies “under penalty of perjury” are embedded at the end of this story. Of course the other videos being taken down across the internet seem to fall squarely under fair use.

Witnesses Unto Me has filed a grievance with the Texas State Bar against Caner’s Attorney, David C. Gibbs III. The bar has not yet had time to review the complaint. Witnesses Unto Me asserted that any attorney practicing in copyright law would know that his client does not own a US Government work and is abusing the DMCA takedown provisions to assist his client in erasing the clear trail of lies.

Ergun Caner Trains US Marines

Witnesses Unto Me last wrote about the Caner fiasco in 2010 with the story: United States Marines duped by pretend jihadist, Ergun Caner. This story included two videos where Caner trained the US Marines on cultural issues before being deployed. These are the videos that Caner has asserted ownership of and has had removed. Caner goes so far as to explain how to discern is a person in a Muslim country is friendly or hostile toward the soldiers based on their hair coverings. While Witnesses Unto Me is unable to determine if this information is true, we have determined that Caner’s basis for knowing the information is false. Caner claimed to have grown up in Turkey, hating americans, unable to speak English, and “trained in the protocols of Jihad” which he defined as “holy war” and said he was going to be a soldier in Jihad.

Witnesses Unto Me revealed in 2010 that Ergun caner was actually born in Sweden and moved to America when he was one year old. He grew up in Ohio, mostly with his Swedish, Lutheran, mother. The truth is clearly in contradiction with the stories told to the Marines and elsewhere.

The so called “exoneration” seems to come from Caner’s interpretation of the statement from Liberty University when he wasn’t fired, rather, Liberty University decided not to renew his contract. Liberty’s statement was carefully worded to avoid calling Caner a liar, saying: “Dr. Caner has made factual statements that are self-contradictory.” The complete statement from Liberty clearly looks like a face-saving admition of wrong doing, yet Caner calls it “exoneration.” Decide for yourself:

After a thorough and exhaustive review of Dr. Ergun Caner’s public statements, a committee consisting of four members of Liberty University’s Board of Trustees has concluded that Dr. Caner has made factual statements that are self-contradictory. However, the committee found no evidence to suggest that Dr. Caner was not a Muslim who converted to Christianity as a teenager, but, instead, found discrepancies related to matters such as dates, names and places of residence. Dr. Caner has cooperated with the board committee and has apologized for the discrepancies and misstatements that led to this review. Dr. Caner’s current contractual term as Dean of Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary expires on June, 30, 2010. Dr. Caner will no longer serve as Dean of Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary. The university has offered, and Dr. Caner has accepted, an employment contract for the 2010-2011 academic year. Dr. Caner will remain on the faculty of Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary as a professor.

The DMCA requires that videos be restored after ten days if a proper counter-notification is sent. Witnesses Unto Me filed such a notice, and these videos should be restored at the end of the ten day wait unless Caner chooses to file a lawsuit, which could keep them offline longer. In the meantime, the videos have been reposted on YouTube. The videos will be embedded following the letters from Caner’s attorney below. The audio has been corrected some from the original posting so it is easier to hear.

Ergun Caner Claims Ownership of US Government work


{ 18 comments… read them below or add one }

Bennett Willis June 14, 2013 at 9:19 am

I love the statement by the lawyer that “I have a good faith belief.” This seems to me to say that I have been hired to do things that may not turn out to be right but my client is paying me to do this.

Things had pretty much calmed down relative to EC. Only Moses Model seemed to be keeping up with it. But this should get things active from place to place. And there seems to me to be no basis for the good faith belief other than that EC would really like for video of him saying things that also had no basis to go away.

Another nice thing is that resisting the silly efforts of the law firm runs up the bill. It seems that if the government paid EC for his efforts, then they own the material and not EC. There are many public records that are not likely to disappear so the effort is doomed to failure from that point of view alone.

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Anonymous June 14, 2013 at 6:45 pm

Thank you for exposing Ergun Caner. His attempts to get some traction out of a non-renewed contract will fool only people who are naive. Not renewing your contract is the same thing as firing at most institutions. I remember seeing Caner speak a few years ago. He held the audience spellbound. We never dreamed that it was all lies. I wish he would simply repent and live a quiet life doing selfless deeds.

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Jonathan June 20, 2013 at 10:11 pm

I was a student at Liberty University when Caner was still teaching there. He was definitely a slick talker in the videos we had to watch because he made similar false statements about his life when teaching about Islam. I find it ironic that Liberty takes great pride in being the nations largest Christian university, but has had several scandals indicating it is far from it. Self-contradictory=contradictory, or lying. I don’t know how that liar is still allowed to teach at Christian universities with such an arrogant attitude and has blatantly displayed his refusal to repent.

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Moses June 15, 2013 at 4:55 am

Jason,

Thank you for everything you have done. You have made most of what I have done possible. Given how many times over the last couple of years that I have googled “Ergun Caner Marines”, I find it amusing that David and Ergun don’t know who you are.

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Debbie Kaufman June 15, 2013 at 5:07 pm

Love this part of the letter:

Dr. Caner is the exclusive owner of the copyrights in and to the text, artwork, logos, videos, andphotographs of his public speeches and presentations.2)

Dr. Caner has not granted permission—nor has he authorized anyone—to post any video or any part of any video in any Viddler presentation.3)

Any unauthorized use of this material infringes upon the exclusive right of the owner, Dr. Caner.Please be advised that at no time has Dr. Caner either received a request for permission or granted permission toanyone to post any portion of his copyrighted materials. Therefore, please immediately remove any Viddlerposting that contains any material to which Dr. Caner is the exclusive owner. The following postings containunauthorized uses of Dr. Caner’s copyrighted material of which he is currently aware

Yeah, right. And he was also trained to be a jihad. :) I’m glad you are fighting this Jason.

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Katie June 17, 2013 at 8:11 pm

Jason,

Thank you for once again, not allowing yourself to be bullied by the likes of Ergun Caner and his hired guns. I checked YT today and these videos are showing up right and left. They are becoming quite ubiquitous.

Caner will be undone by the truth of the scriptures: “Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling”. Prv. 16:18

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SLIMJIM June 18, 2013 at 12:32 am

As a Christian, a Pastor and former Marine, the video is too painful to watch. How could Caner be so deceptive?

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Katie June 18, 2013 at 4:46 pm

As a retired USNavy HMC, my question is how could the DOD allow Caner this audience without vetting him?

We didn’t do our homework.

I hope they have learned, but I fear that’s not the case.

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SLIMJIM June 18, 2013 at 8:16 pm

It’s sad when we think the lack of discernment coming from DOD…if the terrorist preacher al awlaki could speak at a dinner at the Pentagon that it’s no surprise Caner would speak. Sad isn’t it?

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Katie June 18, 2013 at 10:12 pm

Indeed it is sad. You would think that given the profound destruction of 911, that vetting speakers for our marine warriors would have been mandatory. I could have done a better job because I was actually in Saudi Arabia and experienced their treatment of women. Yet Caner said zilch about women other than to treat them obscenely with his ‘mangina’ joke. You could tell that the marines present weren’t amused. Caner taught them nothing and in hindsight, that’s probably a good thing.

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Mark June 20, 2013 at 8:16 pm

slimjim and Katie,

I left a note on the Marines’ FB page: https://www.facebook.com/MCCSNewRiver/posts/10151556856334775

Nelson June 19, 2013 at 2:58 am

I’m glad for all for all of the work you have done keeping this issue alive and exposing Caner.

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Bennett Willis June 19, 2013 at 10:49 am

The Associated Baptist Press story is one that I suspect EC would have preferred not be written. It brings his tall tale out and presents it to much of the Baptist world that had probably forgotten (or never knew) the story.

Maybe he can get it taken down?!:)

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Micah Burke June 19, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Logan Paschke June 19, 2013 at 6:43 pm

So, the DMCA is a pretty sneaky tool. In that by doing a counter-claim you reveal your name, address, etc to a party that doesn’t like you. It’s usually used to get information so they can use it or just as an intimidation or bullying tactic. The “underworld” of youtube.

If you exaggerated or lied about your testimony then repent and move on. If you go back and try to cover up your lies then how in the world can you consider yourself exonerated if only in the interior workings of a delusional self-perception. Turns out that putting snakes back in a can is pretty hard…

Best of luck to you in this silly lawsuit. I’m pretty excited as I’m transferring to GGBTS AZ in the Fall. If I don’t see you around the campus (and I’m assuming not since you’ve likely already graduated) just wanted to say thank you for giving me that tour 3 years ago. Godspeed for you and your church.

grace and peace

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Bennett Willis June 20, 2013 at 10:32 am

Send me a note, if you would. My address is bennettdotwillisatbrazosportdotedu.
Bennett

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Gary August 20, 2013 at 1:22 pm

Greetings

When a liar knowingly tells an outright lie to another person, it must automatically be true that the liar takes that person for a fool. If he continues lying to that person, come what may, for over a decade, he must take the person for an imbecile. A person who takes another person for an imbecile must also automatically disrespect that person. You cannot take someone for an imbecile and respect them at the same time. The two are mutually exclusive.

This means that his wife, his kids, friends, neighbors, colleagues, co-authors, sponsors, co-workers, associates, staff, students, editors, publishers, video editors, video publishers, video distributors, promoters, agents, managers, congregations, acquaintances, readers, viewers and fans, every interviewer, colleague, employer, pastor, church, congregation, conference delegate, convention audience – absolutely everyone that Erjuuuuiiiun Mehemaaaat Jiuuuvaani Jiuuuuuneeeer, the “trained”, “Istanbul-born”, “Cairo and Beirut -trained”, “ex-terrorist”, “ex-Muslim” has ever tried to spin his web of deceit around has been totally disrespected and taken for an utter imbecile by the great man.

Since Christian doctrine strictly forbids “the bearing of false witness” (lying), “bearing false witness in the name of Jesus Christ” must also be disrespecting what he is meant to believe is holy scripture, the word of God.

Lying is a very slippery slope. It is born of human failings. It is a habit of the weak willed and the insecure. If he has been weak-willed and insecure enough to lie about the enormous thing that is meant to be at the very core of his existence, then we can only imagine what other large, medium and smaller lies and deceptions he may perpetrated in other areas of his private and public life. Imagine how many lies the man must have told in his life?

The only reason he can have for not admitting his deceptions and apologizing to everyone he has deceived, disrespected, used and taken for imbeciles, seeking their forgiveness, must be that his ego is more precious to him than even the combined value of those many thousands of people impacted by his lies. His ego must mean more to him than evangelism, than ministry, than training pastors, than saving souls, than Christianity, even (dare I say it) than Jesus Christ himself, if even his devotion to what he purports to have committed his life to, is not strong enough to overcome the urge to protect his own ego and seek redemption.

Even if he were to confess, apologize and seek forgiveness now, how could anyone unequivocally believe him to be being sincere about it, with the sheer volume and long history of self- serving insincerity and dishonesty that he has behind him?

Evangelism can only have validity if it is manifest that it is God who calls an evangelist into ministry. He has now demonstrated to the entire world, that it can sometimes take an entire decade to tell if an evangelist was called to ministry by God or whether the evangelist just woke up one day and decided to call and appoint himself to minister to others under nobody’s authority but his own.

His cannot possibly care whether any Muslims are saved (all he ever does is heap insult, hate-filled venom and more lies on them – including his father and his entire Turkish bloodline, by the way). Similarly he equally cannot care whether any evangelist he trained or any Christians he ministered to are saved. The only logical conclusion it’s possible to draw is that he cannot even genuinely care whether he himself is saved. The importance of his ego and his bank account must far outweigh the significance to him of the saving of anybody’s soul.

Do not worry about his defenders. Each and every time they defend him, they condemn themselves, because in doing so they unfortunately unknowingly confirm his assessment of them as imbeciles who are beneath his own capacity to respect.

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Luther Stapleton August 23, 2013 at 9:02 am

He, Ergun Caner, has perpetually lied and attempted to bully those who rightly expose his continued falsehoods. He is a perfect example of ” if you tell a lie long enough you will believe it yourself. “

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